Comments on: TIA Tuesday: An exercise in rationalization http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/09/tia-tuesday-an-exercise-in-rationalization/ The theology of Reality Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:08:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Common Sense Atheism » The Irrational Atheist (notes in the margin, index) http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/09/tia-tuesday-an-exercise-in-rationalization/comment-page-1/#comment-16292 Common Sense Atheism » The Irrational Atheist (notes in the margin, index) Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:00:15 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=561#comment-16292 [...] 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, [...] [...] 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, [...]

]]> By: Ric http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/09/tia-tuesday-an-exercise-in-rationalization/comment-page-1/#comment-5898 Ric Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:50:50 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=561#comment-5898 Freidenker, it makes perfect biological sense. Morality is pre-religion anyway. All religion does is slap a (false) rational on morality and then try to take credit for it. So the argument that an atheist is morally superior because his morality is autonomous as opposed to heteronomous can easily be made. However, I tend to think that an atheist is neither morally superior nor inferior, because really both atheists and theists get their morality from evolutionary sources. I suppose the moral of the story is that religion is irrelevant to behaving good (it is generally only relevant, as you point out, to behaving evilly). Freidenker, it makes perfect biological sense. Morality is pre-religion anyway. All religion does is slap a (false) rational on morality and then try to take credit for it. So the argument that an atheist is morally superior because his morality is autonomous as opposed to heteronomous can easily be made. However, I tend to think that an atheist is neither morally superior nor inferior, because really both atheists and theists get their morality from evolutionary sources. I suppose the moral of the story is that religion is irrelevant to behaving good (it is generally only relevant, as you point out, to behaving evilly).

]]> By: Freidenker http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/09/tia-tuesday-an-exercise-in-rationalization/comment-page-1/#comment-5893 Freidenker Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:36:00 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=561#comment-5893 I'm curious to know what studies show that atheists have no correlation with flimsy morals. As an atheist, I often wonder just how much my morality is inspired by the bible, when compared to, say, things I've seen on TV, other books I've read, people I know, etc. I'm pretty sure at least a few of my moral principles at least indirectly stem from the bible or Judeo-Christian tradition. It's possible that atheists tend to be more moral because they also tend to be less credulous, meaning that you get less "bad people" doing "bad things". I wouldn't bet my money that there's a reason for atheists to be, in their nature, better people. It doesn't make biological sense. It does make psychological sense that theists can be worse, if theism can coerce good human beings into being bad ones. I’m curious to know what studies show that atheists have no correlation with flimsy morals. As an atheist, I often wonder just how much my morality is inspired by the bible, when compared to, say, things I’ve seen on TV, other books I’ve read, people I know, etc. I’m pretty sure at least a few of my moral principles at least indirectly stem from the bible or Judeo-Christian tradition.

It’s possible that atheists tend to be more moral because they also tend to be less credulous, meaning that you get less “bad people” doing “bad things”. I wouldn’t bet my money that there’s a reason for atheists to be, in their nature, better people. It doesn’t make biological sense. It does make psychological sense that theists can be worse, if theism can coerce good human beings into being bad ones.

]]> By: InTheImageOfDNA http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/09/tia-tuesday-an-exercise-in-rationalization/comment-page-1/#comment-5891 InTheImageOfDNA Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:57:34 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=561#comment-5891 I've been reading your blog for quite some time but haven't commented. I think I see a trend here with Vox Day and his book: the only thing that he is showing to be irrational is himself. I’ve been reading your blog for quite some time but haven’t commented. I think I see a trend here with Vox Day and his book: the only thing that he is showing to be irrational is himself.

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