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	<title>Comments on: How Sarah Palin can win the White House</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/09/29/how-sarah-palin-can-win-the-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3727</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a late-comer to this blog (and therefore, this thread). Nevertheless, Ric is quite correct in the assertion that the Quayle choice as VP made no difference in people voting for Reagan, mainly because Reagan was not running for president at the time. After two terms, Reagan was ineligible to run again. It was George H.W. Bush (Reagan&#039;s VP) who, in his bid for the White House, selected Quayle.

In the current scenario, I suspect that the Palin choice will have a much larger influence on conservative voters than did the Quayle choice. She has brought a lot of conservatives back to McCain, many of whom were perfectly willing to stay home on election day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a late-comer to this blog (and therefore, this thread). Nevertheless, Ric is quite correct in the assertion that the Quayle choice as VP made no difference in people voting for Reagan, mainly because Reagan was not running for president at the time. After two terms, Reagan was ineligible to run again. It was George H.W. Bush (Reagan&#8217;s VP) who, in his bid for the White House, selected Quayle.</p>
<p>In the current scenario, I suspect that the Palin choice will have a much larger influence on conservative voters than did the Quayle choice. She has brought a lot of conservatives back to McCain, many of whom were perfectly willing to stay home on election day.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric</title>
		<link>http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/09/29/how-sarah-palin-can-win-the-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although you bring up good points, I don&#039;t think you&#039;re analysis is correct.  I don&#039;t think Quayle made much difference either way in people voting for Reagan, and it seems that now that the blush is off the rose, Palin also won&#039;t make much difference in people voting for McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although you bring up good points, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re analysis is correct.  I don&#8217;t think Quayle made much difference either way in people voting for Reagan, and it seems that now that the blush is off the rose, Palin also won&#8217;t make much difference in people voting for McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Deacon Duncan</title>
		<link>http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/09/29/how-sarah-palin-can-win-the-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, could be. I remember there was a lot of criticism of Quayle and his level of competency, and I was conservative myself at the time, and the negative coverage did indeed make me want to vote for him. The bad press effectively raised my opinion of Quayle because I thought they must be exaggerating how bad he was. Therefore he must be better, QED.

You&#039;re probably right about the chronological order, though. The &quot;potatoe&quot; incident stuck in my mind as the most blatant example of (what I regarded at the time as being) an inappropriately exaggerated slam against Quayle, but it was certainly not the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, could be. I remember there was a lot of criticism of Quayle and his level of competency, and I was conservative myself at the time, and the negative coverage did indeed make me want to vote for him. The bad press effectively raised my opinion of Quayle because I thought they must be exaggerating how bad he was. Therefore he must be better, QED.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably right about the chronological order, though. The &#8220;potatoe&#8221; incident stuck in my mind as the most blatant example of (what I regarded at the time as being) an inappropriately exaggerated slam against Quayle, but it was certainly not the first.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re trying to make an ironic comment about Bush/Quayle&#039;s doing &quot;so well&quot;, but if you&#039;re not it&#039;s worth pointing out that the &quot;potatoe&quot; incident happened in 1992, and, as far as I recall, Bush/Quayle actually lost the election that year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re trying to make an ironic comment about Bush/Quayle&#8217;s doing &#8220;so well&#8221;, but if you&#8217;re not it&#8217;s worth pointing out that the &#8220;potatoe&#8221; incident happened in 1992, and, as far as I recall, Bush/Quayle actually lost the election that year.</p>
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		<title>By: David D.G.</title>
		<link>http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/09/29/how-sarah-palin-can-win-the-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>David D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I have seen a number of forum comments and blogs that pointed out much the same problem, pointing out that Biden faces a possible no-win scenario: If he shreds Palin in the VP debate, he will be seen as unchivalrous, if not worse; but if he softballs her so as to avoid that characterization, she comes off looking not so incompetent, and he winds up looking like a failure for not showing how much better he can do.  Heck, he even risks coming across as sexist by either being impolite to her OR by being polite to her!  That&#039;s a tough spot for anyone to be in.  (Conversely, the expectations for Palin are now so low that she may be seen as having &quot;won&quot; the debate if she just manages to not leave the stage in tears by the time it&#039;s over.)

The tightrope that Biden needs to walk (and that, as you point out, liberals generally would be well advised to follow) is to avoid name-calling or emotional appeals and to calmly and politely stick to the facts of relevant issues, but to stick to those facts &lt;i&gt;firmly&lt;/i&gt; and repeat them as needed -- without rancor -- until they are heard.

Sure, somebody, somewhere, will spin anything that&#039;s said into whatever satisfies their agenda.  But in the first place, that&#039;s going to happen no matter what else one does.  And in the second place, I think that most uncommitted people who see/hear/read the actual content will recognize the difference between statements of fact and insults.  Even if they never check on the actual facts and assume that anyone who contradicts Palin is lying, it would still count for something if the statement contained no outright insults or innuendoes against her.


~David D.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have seen a number of forum comments and blogs that pointed out much the same problem, pointing out that Biden faces a possible no-win scenario: If he shreds Palin in the VP debate, he will be seen as unchivalrous, if not worse; but if he softballs her so as to avoid that characterization, she comes off looking not so incompetent, and he winds up looking like a failure for not showing how much better he can do.  Heck, he even risks coming across as sexist by either being impolite to her OR by being polite to her!  That&#8217;s a tough spot for anyone to be in.  (Conversely, the expectations for Palin are now so low that she may be seen as having &#8220;won&#8221; the debate if she just manages to not leave the stage in tears by the time it&#8217;s over.)</p>
<p>The tightrope that Biden needs to walk (and that, as you point out, liberals generally would be well advised to follow) is to avoid name-calling or emotional appeals and to calmly and politely stick to the facts of relevant issues, but to stick to those facts <i>firmly</i> and repeat them as needed &#8212; without rancor &#8212; until they are heard.</p>
<p>Sure, somebody, somewhere, will spin anything that&#8217;s said into whatever satisfies their agenda.  But in the first place, that&#8217;s going to happen no matter what else one does.  And in the second place, I think that most uncommitted people who see/hear/read the actual content will recognize the difference between statements of fact and insults.  Even if they never check on the actual facts and assume that anyone who contradicts Palin is lying, it would still count for something if the statement contained no outright insults or innuendoes against her.</p>
<p>~David D.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Freidenker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freidenker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, why didn&#039;t anyone think of this before? People are not rational animals - they&#039;re *scared* animals! If people are insecure and inept, they&#039;ll make their decisions based on their fears and prejudice. Such behavior is entirely logic-proof. 

Maybe someone should start telling people to get a little less hard on Palin.
Then again, what&#039;s the alternative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, why didn&#8217;t anyone think of this before? People are not rational animals &#8211; they&#8217;re *scared* animals! If people are insecure and inept, they&#8217;ll make their decisions based on their fears and prejudice. Such behavior is entirely logic-proof. </p>
<p>Maybe someone should start telling people to get a little less hard on Palin.<br />
Then again, what&#8217;s the alternative?</p>
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