While I’m glad you dropped by, I’m not a big fan of the kind of conspiracy theories that read like Weekly World News articles, make excessive use of caps lock, and are punctuated with claims of personal superiority. You are welcome to stay and participate if you wish, but I’m going to cut this particular line of commentary short, and will strongly discourage any similar comments in the future.

Thank you.

dd

At 75, I am not only more knowledgeable and much more experienced than are MOST people MY age much less anyone younger I’m smarter than over 97.5% of the world,
my tested ability to effectively use my IQ is nearly double the level most people use theirs.

I read about twice as fast as college grads of the 1950′s (Which was when grades were earned, not just given.) and I do so with high comprehension. And my tested listening skills are FOUR times better than most peoples.

My interests are facts, accuracy, honesty, logic, truthfulness and knowledge. I spend many hours a day in search of facts, knowledge and truth.

So Nemo, while I damn well KNOW what I am talking about, YOU do NOT! ALL your comments do is PROVE how IGNORANT of the FACTS you are.

IF you GO DO SUFFICIENT RESEARCH, you will find out I AM CORRECT.

Neil C. Reinhardt

“A 75 year old Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, a Vet & an Iconoclastic, Philosophizing Beach Volleyball Playing Grumpy Old Son Of A Beach!”

(Was a Grumpy Young SOB in Miami Beach, Fl., now Manhattan Beach, CA.)

I am A Proud TEA PARTY Member

As well as being a member of all of the following:

http://www.NRA.org/

http://VetsForFreedom.org/

http://MAAF.info/

http://www.Atheists.org/
http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/

http://www.FFRF.org/

IF the Moslem Fanatics take control AS THEY DAMN WELL INTEND TO DO

They can intend all they want; there’s zero possibility of it actually happening. Whereas Christian fanatics, on the other hand, are never all that far from power in America.

While I agree the US is NOT a Christian and was never set up to be one as demonstrated by the 1797 Treaty with Tripoli were it states:

“The United States of America is in NO SENSE founded on the Christian Religon” and “is NOT a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammandan one”

I will point out that if “bipolar2″ actually believes “the christo- fascists (dominionists), threats to our secular Republic greater than all islamo-fascists combined.”

He has NO CLUE what the hell he is talking about!

The TRUTH IS we Atheist HAVE not only survived
under the Christians in the US we are getting stronger and stronger all of the time!

IF the Moslem Fanatics take control AS THEY DAMN WELL INTEND TO DO, THEY WILL HUNT US DOWN AND KILL US!

And Children, the Moslem Brotherhood and the one hundred million who have pledged to fight, kill and die for them are,
according to their published 100 year plan to take over the WORLD, are now in year 20 of their 100 year plan.

They are not only ON SCHEDULE, they may well be ahead of it!

SO BE WARNED!

Neil C. Reinhardt

As fr the UK ditching the queen and becoming a full republic; Dream on. Australia coudn’t even do this with their constitutional referendum a few years back.

I recently watched that old The Pallisers miniseries. They wanted decimal currency, disestablishment of the Church of England, what we in the US would call “redistricting” so that seats in Commons would correspond better to where people actually lived, and there were the first suggestions of votes for women. Most of the characters saw women’s sufferage as far fetched but thought disestablishment was just around the corner. How wrong they were. The younger girls in the series would get the vote in their adult lives, decimal currency didn’t come until the 60s, and the C of E is alive today. I don’t know enough British history to say when it happened, but I understand representation in Commons is at least as fair if not more fair than the US House. I think it was probably between the wars when yall worked that out, if not earlier. I’m interested to know how it happened.

The author writes:”Where is the call for separation of church and state in this situation?” To me, this is the red light moment of stupidity in a blinking neon sign of stupidity. Not only are we a “judeo-christian nation” (as demonstrated by the healthy mix of christian and jewish presidents in our history) but we’re a socialist state where the actions of a private business are subject to the separation clause.

>> The Constitution is the foundation document for the US

There’s no natural law. Neither God nor religion plays any role. There are no “law givers.” Laws do not get delivered on Sinai. They do not get “handed down.”

God-talk disappears from justificatory language of 1776 (in the Declaration of Independence) and gives way to a view of 1786 (in the Constitution) that the people give themselves their own dignity and rights as citizens.

The Constitution contains no reference to any god. The word ‘God’ does not appear. (‘Jesus’, ‘Christ’, ‘Christianity’ don’t appear either.) The word ‘religion’ appears only once, in Amendment One.

The first amendment protects “freedom of conscience.” Initially the rights of a well-to-do white man (not slave, not female, not propertyless) to freely choose how to conduct his life as a legal person.

One Civil War (1865), the vote for women (1920), one Civil Rights Movement (1965) — that’s the turbulent blood-soaked price paid so far for extending equality (reciprocity) of rights.

>> Amendment One also establishes freedom *from* religion.

The US is a secular state from its inception. It is *not* one nation under any god, power, force or immaterial being.

It (she or he or some committee) doesn’t rule here. The people do. Not child molesting priests, not fanatical tax-dodging televangelists, nor cabals of delusional fundies seeking to overthrow the Republic.

The people enjoy or abuse their ‘freedom of conscience’ in matters of religion, speech, publications, public assembly, petitions to the elected representatives of the people, civil disobedience, and even armed revolution. Is this order on the edge of chaos? Yes, and designedly so.

Some conjectured divinity (or divinized leader) can no longer claim as a “holy lie” the right to frighten people into acting in consonance with social order. The people are sovereign; we abide by the laws which we create for ourselves.

>> Let’s be clear here: The people are sovereign.

Christ is not sovereign . . . God is not sovereign . . . they do not exist. They are fictions no more real than Zeus, Sherlock Holmes, or Batman. And, theology is fifth rate fan fiction. As one wag puts it, “Theology is a subject without an object.”

There are many who pretend to speak for metaphysical nonentities, demanding social control and political domination. They should be seen for the lying frauds that they are. They are christo-fascists (dominionists), threats to our secular Republic greater than all islamo-fascists combined.

bipolar2

valdemar wrote:

As a Brit, I’ve always hated the conflation of church and state, via the monarchy and Anglican faith…. What we need is a sensible republic, not unlike the USA envisaged by those Enlightened gentlemen in 1776.

As an American, I’d say we need the same thing.

~David D.G.

As a Brit, I’ve always hated the conflation of church and state, via the monarchy and Anglican faith. There are already rumblings that suggest the old edifice is going to come crashing down. What we need is a sensible republic, not unlike the USA envisaged by those Enlightened gentlemen in 1776. One can but dream.