Comments on: TIA Tuesday: Punch drunk http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/07/15/tia-tuesday-punch-drunk/ The theology of Reality Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:49:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: valdemar http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/07/15/tia-tuesday-punch-drunk/comment-page-1/#comment-1009 valdemar Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:03:49 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=399#comment-1009 Yes, funny how the 'not all Christians are idiots' argument never seems to apply to 'militant atheists'. Slippery thing, religion. I've no doubt that when the benefits of stem cell research are realised, Christians who oppose it today will be queuing to get all that lovely scientific medicine. I can only express my admiration for you, DD, wading through this drivel. Especially since it seems so unlikely to influence anyone outside VD's little coterie. The guy's book is doing very badly on Amazon.co.uk, where it's ranked at 275,811. The God Delusion is ranked at 65. Hitchens' book is at 1,110. The Voice of God is clearly not as loud or persuasive as it once was... Yes, funny how the ‘not all Christians are idiots’ argument never seems to apply to ‘militant atheists’. Slippery thing, religion. I’ve no doubt that when the benefits of stem cell research are realised, Christians who oppose it today will be queuing to get all that lovely scientific medicine.

I can only express my admiration for you, DD, wading through this drivel. Especially since it seems so unlikely to influence anyone outside VD’s little coterie.

The guy’s book is doing very badly on Amazon.co.uk, where it’s ranked at 275,811. The God Delusion is ranked at 65. Hitchens’ book is at 1,110. The Voice of God is clearly not as loud or persuasive as it once was…

]]> By: B8ovin http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/07/15/tia-tuesday-punch-drunk/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 B8ovin Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:11:42 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=399#comment-1007 Not all Christians oppose gay marriage, and gay people are still living together so, despite states banning same sex marriage based almost entirely on homosexuality being a sin in the Bible, Christian opposition doesn't count. Except when it does. Which is all the time. And, the fact that the government withholds grant and research funding, for stem cells, except for a uselessly limited cell lines, because Bush, based on his crude theocratic understanding of "life" and the beginning thereof, opposed, less than coincidentally, government funding of real value. Well, I guess it isn't the number of Christians opposing something, it's WHO the Christians are. Not all Christians oppose gay marriage, and gay people are still living together so, despite states banning same sex marriage based almost entirely on homosexuality being a sin in the Bible, Christian opposition doesn’t count. Except when it does. Which is all the time. And, the fact that the government withholds grant and research funding, for stem cells, except for a uselessly limited cell lines, because Bush, based on his crude theocratic understanding of “life” and the beginning thereof, opposed, less than coincidentally, government funding of real value. Well, I guess it isn’t the number of Christians opposing something, it’s WHO the Christians are.

]]> By: Deacon Duncan http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/07/15/tia-tuesday-punch-drunk/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Deacon Duncan Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:49:43 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=399#comment-1000 Vox has a couple different ways he blows off Christian opposition to stem cell research. (1) Not all Christians oppose stem cell research, therefore you can't blame Christianity, and (2) stem cell research is still being conducted, so any Christian opposition to it doesn't count. Vox has a couple different ways he blows off Christian opposition to stem cell research. (1) Not all Christians oppose stem cell research, therefore you can’t blame Christianity, and (2) stem cell research is still being conducted, so any Christian opposition to it doesn’t count.

]]> By: B8ovin http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/07/15/tia-tuesday-punch-drunk/comment-page-1/#comment-999 B8ovin Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:34:44 +0000 http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/?p=399#comment-999 Concerning Hitchen's 10th point about medicine, and Vox's footnoted response: How does Vox reconcile the current stem cell debate? The equation of stem cells=life is entirely religious in origin. As someone with End Stage renal disease, who has had two kidney transplants, I find this "antipathy" real and, at present, more important than religious organizations spending a small percentage of their wealth to found hospitals, in which to apply the hard-won knowledge of science. I would, most likely, personally benefit from free inquiry, openmindedness, and the pursuit of stem cell research, even if it is only for it's own sake. Concerning Hitchen’s 10th point about medicine, and Vox’s footnoted response: How does Vox reconcile the current stem cell debate? The equation of stem cells=life is entirely religious in origin. As someone with End Stage renal disease, who has had two kidney transplants, I find this “antipathy” real and, at present, more important than religious organizations spending a small percentage of their wealth to found hospitals, in which to apply the hard-won knowledge of science. I would, most likely, personally benefit from free inquiry, openmindedness, and the pursuit of stem cell research, even if it is only for it’s own sake.

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